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PostSubject: Muriatic Acid   Tue May 25, 2010 5:30 pm

I was hoping the some one could tell me about Muriatic Acid. the reason that I am asking is that on December 10th 2000 a 10 year old boy was found dead two days after he was reported missing the cause of death was suffocation but this acid was poored on his body. As of today the police have still have no suspect. Last time the boy was seen alive he was riding his red bicycle which is still not been found to this day.
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PostSubject: Re: Muriatic Acid   Tue May 25, 2010 5:33 pm

Your google-fu is obviously weak.

Hydrochloric acid is the acid used. Historically though it is also called muriatic acid. Who was using such an archaic name?
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PostSubject: Re: Muriatic Acid   Tue May 25, 2010 5:41 pm

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Who was using such an archaic name?


What do you mean by archaic name?

Something else I need to know is how easy is it to get hold of the stuff.
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PostSubject: Re: Muriatic Acid   Tue May 25, 2010 5:55 pm

Dark Ghost wrote:
Mechanist wrote:
Who was using such an archaic name?


What do you mean by archaic name?

Something else I need to know is how easy is it to get hold of the stuff.


Well it's called Hydrochloric acid in the modern age.
Due to how universal the names for common chemicals are these days it is odd to see someone using a name that has fallen into disuse.

As for how easy it is to get hold of? Most chemical suppliers will sell it. Just a quick google search turns up 500ml for approx 6 US dollars.
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PostSubject: Re: Muriatic Acid   Tue May 25, 2010 6:51 pm

Dark Ghost wrote:
Something else I need to know is how easy is it to get hold of the stuff.


Um, WHY do you want to know this?
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PostSubject: Re: Muriatic Acid   Tue May 25, 2010 6:53 pm

From a un-chemist point of view, Muratic acid is "Burny" if you get it on you, but not the Acid you'd use yto dispose of people. It's usually used to clean swimming pools & get Chrome of of car parts.
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PostSubject: Re: Muriatic Acid   Tue May 25, 2010 6:55 pm

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Dark Ghost wrote:
Something else I need to know is how easy is it to get hold of the stuff.


Um, WHY do you want to know this?


My guess would be is he is looking into the demise of the child in the first post. Odd to look into it ten years after the event but I would surmise that he may be intending to look into where the killer obtained the chemicals in question.

Also Superhero as to its uses it has many. Household cleaning, the production of food additives, tanning leather, production of things like PVC and pickling steel.

You could use it to dispose of bodies though. You would need to leave them to soak in a container of the stuff before disposing of the resulting slurry though.
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PostSubject: Re: Muriatic Acid   Tue May 25, 2010 7:00 pm

Gross...


Why do you pickle steel?????
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PostSubject: Re: Muriatic Acid   Tue May 25, 2010 7:02 pm

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Gross...


Why do you pickle steel?????


Its to remove rust from the steel before its processed in some way.
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PostSubject: Re: Muriatic Acid   Tue May 25, 2010 7:09 pm

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Dark Ghost wrote:
Something else I need to know is how easy is it to get hold of the stuff.


Um, WHY do you want to know this?


I was thinking like Mechanist said cause I figer if I find out where one can get the stuff I might find out who killed the boy
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PostSubject: Re: Muriatic Acid   Tue May 25, 2010 7:11 pm

Dark Ghost wrote:
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Dark Ghost wrote:
Something else I need to know is how easy is it to get hold of the stuff.


Um, WHY do you want to know this?


I was thinking like Mechanist said cause I figer were one can get the stuff I might find out who killed the boy


It's a good idea on the surface but once you dig into it you realise that it isn't actually a good idea.

There are too many sources for the stuff and the police would have better access to postal records than you. If they couldn't get a suspect off it then you have no chance.
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PostSubject: Re: Muriatic Acid   Tue May 25, 2010 7:15 pm

yes but I have to at least try
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PostSubject: Re: Muriatic Acid   Tue May 25, 2010 7:17 pm

You won't get anything out of it. The trail is too old and the sources too many.
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PostSubject: Re: Muriatic Acid   Tue May 25, 2010 7:22 pm

so you are saying I sound not at least try Maechist
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PostSubject: Re: Muriatic Acid   Tue May 25, 2010 7:25 pm

Ten years is a long time.

There is no way of guaranteeing the culprit is even still alive.
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PostSubject: Re: Muriatic Acid   Tue May 25, 2010 7:27 pm

but the point is to bring peace to the boy's family
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PostSubject: Re: Muriatic Acid   Tue May 25, 2010 7:30 pm

Try if you want but my money would be on you not finding anything.
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PostSubject: Re: Muriatic Acid   Tue May 25, 2010 7:34 pm

I am just going to work this on the side

here is a clip I found about the case the aired in 2007

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PostSubject: Re: Muriatic Acid   Tue May 25, 2010 7:40 pm

My connection is sketchy right now, so I haven't watched the video clip. I apologize if they answered this question already.

That said, did they mention how much of the acid was used?
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PostSubject: Re: Muriatic Acid   Tue May 25, 2010 7:48 pm

Here is a newer news report form last year

"It's been a very in depth investigation for 9 years now," says Sergeant Bill Phillips who says Josh Walden's case file is one of the biggest he's ever seen.

A whole 10 binders full of confidential interviews, pictures and evidence but not a bit that will lead police to his killer.

"It is a pending homicide investigation we have documents and recordings here from as recent as recent as two to three months ago," says Phillips.
It's been 9 years since detectives were called to a park in East Lake where they found the 10 year old suffocated with muriatic acid poured on his body.
Walden's family reported him missing two days before, but he was found just blocks from home.
"There were a lot of experience homicide detectives on that case..and i think seeing a small child in that state was extremely depressing for everybody involved," says Phillips.

In the 4500 Block of 14th Avenue is where Josh Walden lived with his family but detectives say he was usually seen miles from here riding a red bicylce, the same bike he was on when he went missing.
Sgt. Phillips says it was that lack of supervision that made Josh vulnerable for this crime.

"It just didnt appear that there was the amount of supervison that there could have been," says Phillips.

"Theres one thing i've realized though he's in a far better place than we'll ever be. Maybe someday ill be there with him," is what Ann Walden had to say about her son's death during an interview with Newschannel9 6 years ago.

Walden has since moved out of the area, and detectives have lost touch with the family.
But Phillips says justice for this family is what motivates them to keep mapping out the case.

"The person who murdered this small child deserves to go to prison so any information people could give us would be greatly appreciated," says Phillips.
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