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PostSubject: Re: Muriatic Acid   Fri Jul 23, 2010 4:13 pm

I will see if I can find the videos in the case and post them up.
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PostSubject: Re: Muriatic Acid   Fri Jul 23, 2010 4:39 pm

Here are the videos I have found so far.



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I could not get the last vid to work so here is the link to it

http://www.newschannel9.com/video/?videoId=4185149001
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PostSubject: Re: Muriatic Acid   Fri Jul 23, 2010 6:49 pm

I was mistaken about Earl Teague he is not the detective put he has posted up fliers
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PostSubject: Re: Muriatic Acid   Fri Jul 23, 2010 6:55 pm

I knwe a detactive hear in louisiana and I am frands with 2 of the local police officers that I culd ask for thar openon so we culd have some openons from pepole that was not involved in the primary infastackason parden the spellingif you are intrasted that is.
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PostSubject: Re: Muriatic Acid   Fri Jul 23, 2010 7:11 pm

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I knwe a detactive hear in louisiana and I am frands with 2 of the local police officers that I culd ask for thar openon so we culd have some openons from pepole that was not involved in the primary infastackason parden the spellingif you are intrasted that is.


go for it
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PostSubject: Re: Muriatic Acid   Fri Jul 23, 2010 7:17 pm

ok all give you any feedback that i git frome them.
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PostSubject: Re: Muriatic Acid   Fri Jul 23, 2010 7:22 pm

Warwing wrote:
ok all give you any feedback that i git frome them.


thanks Warwing
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PostSubject: Re: Muriatic Acid   Fri Jul 23, 2010 7:25 pm

np this hapens to be the kind of thang that I joned the rlsh to try and stop is scumm like the person that killd this boy.
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PostSubject: Re: Muriatic Acid   Sat Jul 24, 2010 8:30 pm

Making headway on this. We have a working theory, and it looks promising. Sifting through lots of data and names at the moment. We will post something more concrete as we get it.
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PostSubject: Re: Muriatic Acid   Tue Jul 27, 2010 1:19 am

Update:

I am working a theory on why Muriatic (hydrochloric) Acid was used. Muriatic acid is a common ingredient in the production of Methamphetamine. The theory is that the perpetrator used Muriatic acid because they had it on hand, and were familiar with what it can do.

There are 4 big factors that I think make this theory more plausible:


#1 Hydrochloric Acid was used in the murder, this is a common ingredient in meth cooking.
#2 We are assuming since the police couldn't confirm sexual abuse, that the likelihood of other motives, such as silencing, are much higher.
#3 The comment by Maria Flanagin " Heard that maybe Joshua knew something that maybe he shouldn't have known"
#4 The density of meth labs operating in the area.

I have searched through local/state/ court records, police records, news blotters, and other various open source info and created a map of every meth lab or convicted meth cooker I could find between 2001 and current time. (still got a little bit to do before its finished.) There are several of these points on the map that are in close vicinity of both the victim's home, and the location of the body. There are also a handful that fall directly between the residence and the crime scene.

The big problem with the data I am working with is that there isn't much of it before 2004-5. TN didn't really start to attack/keep record of the meth problem until about that time period. So where the data might be helpful, it wouldn't be as helpful as if I had the location all the meth labs in Chattanooga on the exact date of the murder.

So yeah, the theory isn't the strongest, and there is no hard evidence to support it. ( that's why its called a theory Very Happy ). And the data I used to list possible suspect houses/cookers is not the most up to date. But it is a ten year old cold case, and this is the best I could do on it so far. I hope it helps.

I am not going to post the data here directly, but it is available to anyone who needs access to it. Just message if you need it. The reason for this, is because it lists hundreds of people who obviously had nothing to do with such a heinous crime. (it can only be one person/group) And despite being former meth cooks, etc.. They are still innocent of this crime. Since Google really loves indexing this forum, I do not wish to put their names out there in a manner that connects them to a child murder. So its available for anyone who wants to help, it just needs to be passe along in private.

I am currently like 65% done with the report, and it should be done completely by this weekend. I will update if I think of any other possibilities.
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PostSubject: Re: Muriatic Acid   Tue Jul 27, 2010 9:37 am

you are doing very well and I thank you for all you have done so far.
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PostSubject: Re: Muriatic Acid   Wed Jul 28, 2010 6:24 am

This thread makes me proud to be a member of this community.

Gadgetastic!
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PostSubject: Re: Muriatic Acid   Wed Jul 28, 2010 8:00 pm

Dark Ghost wrote:
Mechanist wrote:
Who was using such an archaic name?


What do you mean by archaic name?

Something else I need to know is how easy is it to get hold of the stuff.




muratic acid is used to treat swiming pools ph. you can buy it at any swimming pool supply store for about 6 a gallon
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PostSubject: Re: Muriatic Acid   Thu Jul 29, 2010 3:26 am

This may be a little late, but as stated above, muriatic acid is hydrochloric acid (but it is usually a diluted form, not full strength). It can be bought at hardware stores, perhaps for treating wood or something like that. It is pretty strong though, even though it isn't full strength.
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PostSubject: Re: Muriatic Acid   Thu Jul 29, 2010 11:02 am

I am wondering if someone thought the Muriatic Acid would destroy the body? or where they just trying to cover up by wiping out trace evidence? Muriatic acid used in that way would never destroy a body (breaks down to quick in oxygen atmosphere) but a strong chlorine based acid would pretty much annihilate any biological/chemical evidence that forensics would want.
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PostSubject: Re: Muriatic Acid   Thu Jul 29, 2010 2:37 pm

Yeah, Muriatic (hydrochloric) Acid is common. You can pick up 2 gallons for under $11 at Home Depot. It has a a multitude of applications, most of which are industrial, but a few (such as pool cleaning) may justify having it in a residential setting.

The Meth theory isn't the strongest, but its the best I could come up with. Once you take sexual abuse out of the equation, and you start to think about "why" and "who". Then the meth thing starts to make a little more sense.

The other possibility that comes to mind is that it was an accident and someone freaked? But I don't think that's likely with the mechanical asphyxiation, and the bruises around the nose/mouth.

I don't think anyone is going to solve this by looking at the Muriatic acid only. I think you have to look at the whole picture, and new information is going to have to be discovered.
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PostSubject: Re: Muriatic Acid   Thu Jul 29, 2010 4:10 pm

Yeah, someone hoped up on meth might do something like that, or long time drug abusers pretty much have no soul anymore especially meth and Ecstasy users. That would explain the weird way to try to destroy evidence.
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PostSubject: Re: Muriatic Acid   Sun Aug 01, 2010 12:04 pm

I know this guy whom has some connections with the street gangs in the area I have asked him to ask around to see if he can dig up any thing.
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PostSubject: Re: Muriatic Acid   Sun Aug 01, 2010 1:50 pm

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PostSubject: Re: Muriatic Acid   Wed Aug 04, 2010 4:49 pm

Thanks to Overwatch I have been talking to a woman that knew the victim I will update soon
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