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PostSubject: Re: Advice for when you get stabbed   Thu Jul 08, 2010 10:39 pm

when being attacked by a person with a knife you want to block them with something like a chair as you try to get away. good to have mace or anything to blind the attacker.i know from experience not to try and fight bare handed against a mad man with a knife.i have a few jabs but lucky nothing deap.i promise you a knife cuts through a fist.you are best to get any weapon or object to block yourself and blind or bash the attacker with.never let yourself get cornered.
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PostSubject: Re: Advice for when you get stabbed   Wed Jul 14, 2010 7:14 am

If you must fend off a knifeman, do not splay your hand out and present an open palm.

The palm is laced with the tendons and ligaments that move your fingers. If they get cut, they'll be calling you Paralysed Claw Hand Man on your next patrol.

Clench a fist, and present the knuckles at the opponent. It's STILL VERY DANGEROUS and is nowhere near a good spot to be caught in. Wear slash and/or punture-resistant gloves, and hope for the best.

Then run like billy-oh.

PS- for God's sake, if you get stabbed, stop playing silly buggers and get yourself down to the hospital.


Last edited by Statesman on Wed Jul 14, 2010 7:15 am; edited 1 time in total (Reason for editing : Added a common sense afterthought)
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PostSubject: Re: Advice for when you get stabbed   Sat Aug 07, 2010 10:25 pm

I plan to not even go out on patrol until I get the proper armor, and can protect all my arteries, etc.

My advice for when you go up against someone with a knife? Taze em bro!
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PostSubject: Re: Advice for when you get stabbed   Sat Aug 07, 2010 11:40 pm

master legend wrote:
when being attacked by a person with a knife you want to block them with something like a chair as you try to get away. good to have mace or anything to blind the attacker.i know from experience not to try and fight bare handed against a mad man with a knife.i have a few jabs but lucky nothing deap.i promise you a knife cuts through a fist.you are best to get any weapon or object to block yourself and blind or bash the attacker with.never let yourself get cornered.


What ML said. Get a good distance object like a chair or even a baton. That takes the knife advantage away.

BTW, I was in EMT-B classes. If you get stabbed, and they take off and the knife is still in DO NOT pull it out.
Stabilize it with gauze/cloth/etc and pressure, and get to a hospital ASAP, especially if it's in the vitals.
Pull it out and you could very well bleed to death.

One of the stories one of our EMT instructors told us years ago was about a rookie who went with him to a bar stabbing. The patient is sitting there with a knife in his side.
The rookie proceeds to pull it halfway out when his partner says "No! Leave it in."
Shlick. Right back in it went. Patient passed out after that one.
Very Happy

It is a true story: I cannot confirm it but I have seen true life emergencies just as strange./comical/potentially lethal.
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PostSubject: Re: Advice for when you get stabbed   Sun Aug 08, 2010 3:16 am

Midnite Detective wrote:

One of the stories one of our EMT instructors told us years ago was about a rookie who went with him to a bar stabbing. The patient is sitting there with a knife in his side.
The rookie proceeds to pull it halfway out when his partner says "No! Leave it in."
Shlick. Right back in it went. Patient passed out after that one.
Very Happy


Gah is it terrible of me that I seriously laughed out loud at that??? Neutral
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PostSubject: Re: Advice for when you get stabbed   Sun Aug 08, 2010 2:07 pm

Midnite Detective,

Good advice there. You can also do additional damage when pulling a knife out. Cut muscle tissue, an artery, etc. But most important is the bleeding to death part. Not good for your public image. Also why you shouldn't move broken limbs; you can do much more damage.

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PostSubject: Re: Advice for when you get stabbed   Thu Aug 26, 2010 4:37 pm

here's a little something I learned while doing First Aid class...

If, for any resaon, you use cloth or bandage and you want to hold it together by tying a knot. NEVER place the knot directly above the wound but on the opposite side of it. This might seem logical to do, yet a lot of people still tie the knot directly over the wound.

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PostSubject: Re: Advice for when you get stabbed   Thu Aug 26, 2010 5:02 pm

Ive never been stabbed but I did have my hand slashed through my glove years ago A punk stood in the schoolyard with a steak knife at a little kids throat I came up behind them and placed my hand inbetween the kids throat and the knife then attemted to grab the blade and break it off Now when I did this I was about 15 or 16 years old at the time and another kid ran to the dept.store across the street and got the cop who was just putting his groceries in the truck then brought him back here to the school yard By that time the knife had slid through my glove and into my palm but I wasnt even aware of it I had already pushed the other kid to the ground and sent him home to get his parents and was wrestling with the punk who had the knife By the time the cop showed up I had the side of the blade embeded into my glove and just under some skin but it was broken off the handle He was notonly in trouble for endangering another kids life but also for the destruction of his grandmothers knife that the sailors gave to her mom when she was a girl Now there is a tool I hope to never ever see used as a wepon because this will be much worse than a knife The ulu is a small handle with a curved blade used for cutting meat and sinew to make clothes but the ulu blade is also wider than the blade of the knife which only makes a straight line across or in and out The ulu will slice first and if it were to stab through you it is much more difficult for anybody to remove from the wound because of the curve would catch onto the edge of the wound like a razorhook
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PostSubject: Re: Advice for when you get stabbed   Wed Sep 28, 2011 12:42 am

Is there stab-resistant clothing?
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PostSubject: Re: Advice for when you get stabbed   Wed Sep 28, 2011 9:08 am

They sell a "knife-proof" shirt in Japan for a couple hundred dollars. The consensus among reviewers is it doesn't work.

That's what ordinary chainmail is designed for and it's widely available, though not cheap. If money was no object I would get a long sleeve welded titanium (for the lower weight) under shirt with small links.

Stab plates exist and can also be made out of polycarbonate (Lexan).

Most hard shell type sports armors are at least knife resistant.

The cheapest and best option I've heard about so far is butcher's mail, which you can buy as aprons and then modify into vests. But I haven't been able to find a vendor so far.

PS. Please ignore the main post of this thread. I posted it a long time ago. While I have been stabbed, the whole notion of posting this was kind of dumb.

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PostSubject: Re: Advice for when you get stabbed   Wed Sep 28, 2011 10:52 am

Actually, its good advice using good humour. I've always liked this thread.

And I miss your Mega-Rad days. He was fun. Wink
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PostSubject: Re: Advice for when you get stabbed   Wed Sep 28, 2011 11:11 am

E0N wrote:


The cheapest and best option I've heard about so far is butcher's mail, which you can buy as aprons and then modify into vests. But I haven't been able to find a vendor so far.



That's the only real big problem with that.
The Bracer I made is stab resistant. In vest form it would be quite a bit heavier than the butcher's mail I'm afraid.
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PostSubject: Re: Advice for when you get stabbed   Wed Sep 28, 2011 1:27 pm

There's plenty out there that's slash resistant at least.
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PostSubject: Re: Advice for when you get stabbed   Wed Sep 28, 2011 3:02 pm

My motocross vest is about as stab proof as you can get, for the amount of labor I put into it (cost about $70 in materials)
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PostSubject: Re: Advice for when you get stabbed   Tue Oct 18, 2011 8:10 am

I got stabbed twice in the stomach with a screwdriver when I was in high school.
I did not seek medical attention because I was young and rather terrified of my parents finding out. Thankfully, the wounds were not very deep. I flushed them with alcohol (which hurt more than getting stuck in the first place!), and super-glued them shut.
I was too chicken to sew them up! I tossed my clothes in a random dumpster near a major street. That sort of thing isn't too worrysome in Los Angeles.
In hindsight, it was a terrible way to deal with the experience.
Hopefully I'll never be in that situation again.
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PostSubject: Re: Advice for when you get stabbed   Thu Oct 20, 2011 10:58 am

Most armors leave the axillary artery pretty vulnerable.


http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Axillary_artery


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