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Statesman Hero


 | Subject: Re: Chicago- RLSHless? Fri Mar 05, 2010 7:32 am | |
| | Superhero wrote: | | NO RLSH should, or even make a attempt, to protect a place that denies it's own citizens the right to defend themselves. Period. They don't care about their own citizens, why should you? |
By this logic no European, and especially no Briton, should ever step up as a RLSH.
The obvious reply has already been posted; if nobody else is doing it, what other reason is there for us NOT to?
Aren't we all doing this because what's in place doesn't match up to what we want? |
|  | | Statesman Hero


 | Subject: Re: Chicago- RLSHless? Fri Mar 05, 2010 7:42 am | |
| Silver Sentinel- Superhero carries guns. Ragensi is packin'. There are more that aren't around on forums as often like Nostrum, but there are several guys carrying guns.
I can't get my head around it, but then gun-crime isn't as prevalent in my country. If I'm not in your enviroment, and experiencing it, then I'm in no position to judge.
I just know that I don't want to shoot anyone. I'll fight to my dying breath to protect life, and defend the innocent from their predators. I don't want to kill anybody.
I go out every night to try and make people feel safer. That's all I know, really :/ |
|  | | Zetaman Admin


 | Subject: Re: Chicago- RLSHless? Fri Mar 05, 2010 3:48 pm | |
| Ragensi is not packing guns. What you see is a world war II flare gun. _________________ "I heard him yell nobody gets to eat my wastefullness!." -Master Legend about White Skull... sort of.
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|  | | Silver Sentinel Global Moderator


 | Subject: Re: Chicago- RLSHless? Fri Mar 05, 2010 3:56 pm | |
| Superhero only carries a gun to shoot other rlsh, not bad guys. Well, not just any rlsh, but paranoid rlsh that think he's a government spy out to collect data on us and have threatened him. I wonder if he uses special ammunition, like silver bullets? |
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 | Subject: Re: Chicago- RLSHless? Fri Mar 05, 2010 4:29 pm | |
| | Tea Krulos wrote: | This is a weird question, but why are there no RLSH in Chicago? That is really odd to me. There's some in NY, LA, and here in the much smaller Milwaukee. But none in Chicago, a true Gotham City? Why is that? Any speculations? |
I wonder if theres unconfirmed RLSH there, like we sometimes hear about. |
|  | | Dark Patriot Member


 | Subject: Re: Chicago- RLSHless? Fri Mar 05, 2010 5:35 pm | |
| I carry for a living and I dont really like it, its part of the job and Im good with it, but anyone can use a gun, my personal feeling, which can be disregarded at your liesure is that if we bet them with a lower level of force, we are that much better than they are. |
|  | | RazorHawk Caped Crusader


 | Subject: Re: Chicago- RLSHless? Fri Mar 05, 2010 5:42 pm | |
| I have to say that I don't care if the city or state doesn't allow its people to protect themselves, we are the ones who step up and protect them when the law won't. Thats what makes us who we are. And if that makes us the bad guys, then it just gives us more people to fight. |
|  | | Anonyman Global Moderator

 | Subject: Re: Chicago- RLSHless? Fri Mar 05, 2010 6:19 pm | |
| | Tothian wrote: | | Funny you should ask this - a few days ago some girl on Facebook asked on the RLSH Facebook page if there was anyone from Illinois. |
Treesong is from Illinois. |
|  | | Atlas Member


 | Subject: Re: Chicago- RLSHless? Fri Mar 05, 2010 7:40 pm | |
| | NiteWatch wrote: | | The Shisa wrote: | | And what happens to the children that live there unprotected? Should they just be blown off? |
As a matter of fact...I don't know. But we haven't even began to affect society so much that it would make a major difference. A small one, yes, but not a major one. Those children aren't entirely unprotected. They have the cops. Be patient. We aren't humanity's saviors. Humanity has to realize it needs saving. We are just like the lanterns...we light the path so they don't slip. We watch out for them. |
Oh, dont even get me started on the police.
In relation to the topic, people need "heroes". We show the public that not everybody is a greedy slob, in a world where there is hate and corruption. The difference that we have make is significant in its own way. I dont deny the fact that we could have some more order around here so that people would take us a bit more serious though. But back to the topic, That first line counts for everybody, not just places like NY and LA. We need a mask or two to get out there.
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 | Subject: Re: Chicago- RLSHless? Fri Mar 05, 2010 7:52 pm | |
| | RazorHawk wrote: | | I have to say that I don't care if the city or state doesn't allow its people to protect themselves, we are the ones who step up and protect them when the law won't. Thats what makes us who we are. And if that makes us the bad guys, then it just gives us more people to fight. |
My point exactly. The police run on rules and to be completely honest, if they had the chance to end all organized crime in one city, they wouldn't do it. All they want is one thing, and thats money. Unlike the police, we are paid in the knowlege that one more person is safer. If we are considered bad because of that, then we can take it. I hope that our passion for our "job" is that strong.
Also, yes there will be more people to fight, RazorHawk. Alot more people. |
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 | Subject: Re: Chicago- RLSHless? Sat Mar 06, 2010 12:05 am | |
| | Statesman wrote: | | Superhero wrote: | | NO RLSH should, or even make a attempt, to protect a place that denies it's own citizens the right to defend themselves. Period. They don't care about their own citizens, why should you? |
By this logic no European, and especially no Briton, should ever step up as a RLSH.
The obvious reply has already been posted; if nobody else is doing it, what other reason is there for us NOT to?
Aren't we all doing this because what's in place doesn't match up to what we want? |
You're right. Here we is forbidden to have many kinds of weapons. Even Expandable Batons.
And I am against fire-weapons. |
|  | | RazorHawk Caped Crusader


 | Subject: Re: Chicago- RLSHless? Sat Mar 06, 2010 3:06 am | |
| | Atlas wrote: | | RazorHawk wrote: | | I have to say that I don't care if the city or state doesn't allow its people to protect themselves, we are the ones who step up and protect them when the law won't. Thats what makes us who we are. And if that makes us the bad guys, then it just gives us more people to fight. |
My point exactly. The police run on rules and to be completely honest, if they had the chance to end all organized crime in one city, they wouldn't do it. |
Everytime I hear something like this, it reminds me of a documentary I saw about the Crips and the Bloods and how in Los Angeles when these gangs started it was said that there were hundreds of gang members in LA, now they say hundreds of gangs in LA. I guess if you don't fight a problem it just gets bigger. Huh, who would have thought? |
|  | | thanatos Caped Crusader


 | Subject: Re: Chicago- RLSHless? Sat Mar 06, 2010 4:29 am | |
| Vancouver- 400 to 600 gangs. who would have thought? _________________ A live human body and a deceased human body have the same number of particles. Structurally there's no difference.
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|  | | Statesman Hero


 | Subject: Re: Chicago- RLSHless? Sat Mar 06, 2010 5:52 am | |
| Zetaman- My bad. All apologies to Ragensi, who I have now been informed is most definitely NOT packin'.  |
|  | | Statesman Hero


 | Subject: Re: Chicago- RLSHless? Sat Mar 06, 2010 5:59 am | |
| Silver Sentinel- My main issue with guns is that while they MAY be carried to "defend yourself" or because "X threatened me", is that they have this annoying tendency to not always shoot the thing that you aim it at.
We could debate gun laws and the right and wrong of it all day and people would feel reeeeeaaaallly strongly on both sides. I feel my viewpoint is coloured by the fact that guns are a rarity in my country. No handguns, no rifles. You have to jump through hoops to get a shotgun.
For my part, I own a shotgun and am fully licensed. I'm also in the territorial army, and have experience on the range with heavier weapons. I'm not saying I'm Rambo, but I'm no lilywhite either. I just don't like them. My belief is that no amount of training will make a gun 100% safe to use... but the same could be said of automobiles, chef knives, tasers, fists, etc, etc.
(((Sorry if this is too off-topic. I can't speak for Chicago, but not everybody who every got the bright idea to go RLSH'ing can be found online. Maybe it's a cultural thing.))) |
|  | | thanatos Caped Crusader


 | Subject: Re: Chicago- RLSHless? Sat Mar 06, 2010 6:28 am | |
| I've always felt that if you rely on a gun too much then if something happens and you dont have it you would feel yourself to be at a disadvantage. if you dont have a gun then you rely more on other things and use your best resource, your brain instead. (got that from Doc Savage)
and just for the record I dont think banning them is a good idea. people should have the right to make their own decisions.
OK. carry on.... _________________ A live human body and a deceased human body have the same number of particles. Structurally there's no difference.
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|  | | Silver Sentinel Global Moderator


 | Subject: Re: Chicago- RLSHless? Sat Mar 06, 2010 2:48 pm | |
| I've grown up with guns all my life. I'm actually very accomplished at hunting small and large game, even though I no longer hunt because I hate killing things. I'm completely comfortable around firearms. However, I thank God that we don't have more actively armed rlshs packing heat. Because looking to "help people" and carrying a gun is a recipe for disaster.
I have no problem with reasonable gun control. I have no problems with restricting the types of firearms available to the public. But banning firearms when they are guaranteed in the Constitution for a reason? Hell no. |
|  | | Atavistik Moderator


 | Subject: Re: Chicago- RLSHless? Sat Mar 06, 2010 3:00 pm | |
| I've got the same thing about killing. grew up around guns... had an early mishap involving a .38 shell fragment and my bottom rib. had a sibling almost "capped" in a random cleaning mishap as well. heard about the Police shooting an old blind/toothless dog and almost hitting kids sleeping in a room beneath one time in my hood as well. it also wasn't a strange occurance to be woken by armed me in the middle of the nightr and have to sit ouside while they searched the premises until it was time for school in the morning too.
guns are almost worthless. at least a sword made you have to show a little back-bone. and if you're gonna hunt, you should use a bow anyways. more sporting for all involved (I don't hunt, if I did I'd likely go with this route) |
|  | | Sentinel Superhero


 | Subject: Re: Chicago- RLSHless? Mon Mar 08, 2010 11:22 pm | |
| If I cannot defend myself, due to "big brother" laws, then my days in this country are finished! Chicago is one of those cities where the LAW abiding citizen cannot do a damn thing to defend him/herself, however the scumbag crimminial element can AND does, beat, shoot, mug, rob, assault whom ever they damn well please. I am with SH on this all the way. Chicago PD is one of the most corrupt in the world. If you guys want a good read, read Dale Carsons "how to arrest proof yourself" its VERY informative. |
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 | Subject: Re: Chicago- RLSHless? Tue Mar 09, 2010 6:00 am | |
| I'm sorry but this whole thread reminds me of Michael Chiklis. |
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