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PostSubject: How would you handle these thugs?   Sun Aug 08, 2010 11:43 pm

I'm curious how you guys would react to these drunk individuals?

http://www.liveleak.com/view?i=97a_1281286527

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PostSubject: Re: How would you handle these thugs?   Mon Aug 09, 2010 12:14 am

Just for clarification. WTF did the guy in white have in his hands? Nunchucku? A baseball bat?
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PostSubject: Re: How would you handle these thugs?   Mon Aug 09, 2010 12:30 am

I would say right away call the police. I wouldn't step in unless they were trying to really physically harm someone. If I was on scene I probably wouldn't get involved till they attacked the guy who got out of his car.
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PostSubject: Re: How would you handle these thugs?   Mon Aug 09, 2010 1:23 am

sakujo wrote:
Just for clarification. WTF did the guy in white have in his hands? Nunchucku? A baseball bat?


It's a baseball bat. Most likely aluminum. If you listen close to the audio you can hear the drunk guys yell something along the lines of " Get the bat " and metallic sounds on the missed swings where the bat likely hit the ground.
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PostSubject: Re: How would you handle these thugs?   Mon Aug 09, 2010 1:50 am

Yeah I would have waited until they actually attacked the guy in the car, but then it would be pain time Smile
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PostSubject: Re: How would you handle these thugs?   Mon Aug 09, 2010 2:36 am

Sadly I'm a man of action. Looking from the roof I would have got off veia jumping and after making my grand appearance See what happened next. I would ask them to stop and if things continued or they came for me then I would call the police. . . .and the hospital too. they might need some bandages.
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PostSubject: Re: How would you handle these thugs?   Mon Aug 09, 2010 2:36 am

I can tell you in fine detail how i would fight them if you want. I know there fighting styles now.
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PostSubject: Re: How would you handle these thugs?   Mon Aug 09, 2010 3:35 am

Be careful Pitch Black; defending yourself and others from an act of aggression initiated by them is great, but "preemptive strikes" are pretty much always illegal. And before you go into morality vs. law, just hear me out- the law can either be an enemy, or it can be a weapon. Whether you agree with it or not, it's better to use the law to your advantage.

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PostSubject: Re: How would you handle these thugs?   Mon Aug 09, 2010 3:41 am

I do agree with you. I only would fight under a last resort. And the batons would come if they pulled a weapon out on me.
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PostSubject: Re: How would you handle these thugs?   Mon Aug 09, 2010 7:21 am

Calling the police first is really important. No matter how well trained someone is taking on 4-5 guys at once is extremely difficult. I think telling them you called the cops and they are on the way might scare them a bit. As far as how to fight them I think there can be a general strategy to, but detail that just is not real. Fighting is unexpected especially when against multiple attackers.
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PostSubject: Re: How would you handle these thugs?   Mon Aug 09, 2010 7:30 am

Yea well I realize that. But watching that video. You can analyze their basic attacks with the moves they make.
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PostSubject: Re: How would you handle these thugs?   Mon Aug 09, 2010 8:25 am

Pitch Black wrote:
Yea well I realize that. But watching that video. You can analyze their basic attacks with the moves they make.


You mean you were able to analyze their drunken attacks with their drunken movements?
That being said with the way they scattered at the site of a baseball bat I'd believe one of us could at least keep them busy until the cops arrived. But are they the real bad guy even? Sure they were stumbling around being mischievous, but the guy in white could have just kept driving and called the cops.
Maybe the drunks deserve the help? Maybe neither group?
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PostSubject: Re: How would you handle these thugs?   Mon Aug 09, 2010 8:29 am

Well the drunk guy did kick the white guys car pretty hard. He also walked on it and tried to force it open. I have to give the drunk guy props though. Picking up a traffic cone to use against a baseball bat. That's some brave person, or stupid.
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PostSubject: Re: How would you handle these thugs?   Mon Aug 09, 2010 8:31 am

Am i the only one who saw that cop just watching them?
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PostSubject: Re: How would you handle these thugs?   Mon Aug 09, 2010 9:14 am

Yes you are. Where was he?
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PostSubject: Re: How would you handle these thugs?   Mon Aug 09, 2010 9:21 am

watch it again and look at the white car that stops and watches them at the end of the road.
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PostSubject: Re: How would you handle these thugs?   Mon Aug 09, 2010 8:10 pm

I gotta say that there was nowhere near enough of a fight to determine the fighting styles of all the people involved. The fact that they were drunk certainly makes them less effective fighters, but they're probably not feeling much pain, either. The "victim" in this video got out of his car and armed himself with a bat. He is not innocent here. I would call the cops and not engage, considering this to be mutually consentual combat. The guy in the car should have driven away. If it got to a point where someone would be seriously injured, I would get involved.

Pitch Black, I applaud your enthusiasm, but it seems that you may be trying to portray a comic book stereotype. There is no need to be overly dramatic here, and well thought out, reality based decisions are looked upon with much more esteem than fantastic scenarios and claims of ultimate wisdom. For instance, how tall is this roof you will be jumping from? What, specifically, is your plan to fight 4 guys, and what is your analysis of their fighting styles? Iwould also advise against grand entrances. While you are busy posing for your close up, the bad guys will be busy plastering your face.
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PostSubject: Re: How would you handle these thugs?   Mon Aug 09, 2010 8:56 pm

Interesting points of view guys. I would agree with the consensus to intervene when necessary - perhaps even much earlier on when the person had first hassled the car by punching and walking on it.

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PostSubject: Re: How would you handle these thugs?   Mon Aug 09, 2010 11:00 pm

I thank you for your help Guist. I will use this knowledge to my use in the future. Oh and your bad ass.
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PostSubject: Re: How would you handle these thugs?   Mon Aug 09, 2010 11:45 pm

With a team and some zip ties or duct tape, hopefully, because then I could focus on just one guy and drop the line "Not a single one of you bastards is going to Wang Chung tonight" as if it was somehow clever.

Alone... um, is this before or after I get my net guns?

The only thing that occurs to me spontaneously is to try and get the one guy away from the others. I guess I'd also have to be at ground level and see just how drunk they really are... they might not be as threatening as they appear in this video. After all that guy apparently didn't accomplish anything with his baseball bat.
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