I believe his age is the main thing. He is not trying to troll, he is just not doing very well with his interactions.

Maybe Aerofox should wait until his testicals decend and he actually hits puberity?

Just my take on it. Careful not to trip on the unbilical cord everyone.

ok there, Mr. I-throw-shurikens-from-fire-escapes.

Z...why are you so confrontational? "Mr. I-throw-shurikens-from-fire-escapes"? You sound like a 10 year old. I also utilize ballbearings, bb's, caltrips and home made smoke bombs. I'm not always on fire escapes.

I sound like a ten year old? Yeah ok, I'm not the guy who's out there throwing shurikens at people.

I'm confrontational? Why don't you go back and read what you just wrote before me? I'm just pointing out that your shit stinks too.

Seriously, if you're going to make some shit up, at least make it believable.

Z, your previous post did sound like an insult a 10 year old would make. Plus, you attemped to "insult" him out of nowhere. If you have nothing nice to post don't post it. Only Tracy can do that!

Guys, bickering like children only makes us all look bad. Nobody is perfect, so lets just move on and get back on subject, ok?

As far as being tough on criminals goes, I'm all for it. Be as tough as you legally can be, because a lot of times criminals think they will get away with things or don't see that actions have consequences. Being tough on them is basically a form of tough love for the entire community, so don't feel bad about it either.

I am a personal fan of scare tactics and mind games. I am against violence, even if it is to be used for good means or self-defense. Though when it comes to self-defense I would end defending myself, I just would not feel very good afterwards.

My point is that direct confrontation is not the only means of diffusing a threat.

I won't even bother talking to Z with his insinuations i'm "making" things up. That's his issue if he thinks that. I won't bother responding to his posts anymore if he insists on acting like a 10 year old. Pretty much anything a RLSH does in the field could be real.

I'm grateful that is the only time I had to "throw a shuriken" at some scumbag for attempting to hurt someone. I would to it again too!

Nuff said!

not here to dispute what happened and didnt happen. and i'm not here to troll and tell you guys to behave like a digital babysitter.

that being said, anything an rlsh does in the field while fighting crime shoud be delt with like a black op. disavow all knowledge, at least here online. be open with the police. but the web is not the place for such stories.

ip's are traceable, anything posted can be tracked. say someone wants a piece of the superhero who handed them their ass a few weeks ago. well, a google search and they'll find ya. keep safe. and that includes keeping your exploits of the dangerous kind off the world wide web.

I would also like to throw this out there... in case of FBI investigation... I'm gonna give out ip addresses and what not. Have to... there are Pedos in the community as well as criminals.

Are you talking about giving the IP addresses of this community?

What Zeta means is like any true RLSH, he will co-operate fully with any police investigation, and that means if they get a warrant or even just ask him nicely, he will hand over IP data to the authorities in order to help police in a investigation.

It is a simple thing, and I think the people here who really are RLSH would do the same thing. We have an obligation to protect people after all, and that means if a pedophile - for example - starts posting on this forum, we will turn him in and hand over the ip data so the courts can use it in the trial.

This is not a community that sexual predators can hide from the police in, and we wont let them. I don't know of any reasonable person who would not help the police in this situation, so I do not see it as a big deal.

Thank you very much for clarifying, mrravenblade. I agree that that is what should be done in case of investigation or the like.

The use of force is a touchy situation. As private citizens, we are not legally required to intervene in any crime we may witness, but we do this because we feel a moral obligation to help our fellow citizens. When you decide to use force, then, you must determine what measure of force is legally and morally defensible. Generally speaking, it is legally defensible to go one degree of force higher than the assailant until the threat is neutralized or the assailant steps down his own use of force. For instance, if one man attacks another and you pull him back, throwing him onto the ground, you cannot press the encounter if he expresses his intent to stop fighting. If he gets up and aggresses toward you or the victim, you can again restrain or otherwise neutralize him in the same manner. If he pulls a knife and says he's going to kill you, deadly force may be an option, legally, but as RLSH we should try to find alternative solutions. Many pepper sprays are very effective and are relatively inexpensive. No encounter is exactly the same as another. Take the totality of the circumstances into account when deciding how to handle any situation, then act with the appropriate higher level of force to stop the threat. Also, never chase a fleeing threat. Your first priority is the victim, and a fleeing threat may put other innocents in jeopardy if he sees he is being pursued. Report the crime and help the victim.

In the few fights I've been in, it started as a separate-and mediate between individuals I know during the day or the occasional bi-moronic bashenfest. Both times I was able to shove them apart, and to the ground. In one case the aggressor got angry and walked off mutterring. Another time, I mediated the conflict and the primary aggressor wiped his dip spit off the secondary aggressor's vehicle with a 4x4 gause pad. Force is tricky, but in GA a civilian can act to prevent a forcible felony, like the aggravated assault that the fight was becoming. Be assertive with words, then be capable with force.

Use of force to prevent an attack that you have observed from the onset is fairly straightforward: you stop the assailant. Let me now pose a question to the community: How do you handle a civilian-on-civilian assault scenario that is already in progress? How do you determine who the aggressor is and whether or not your intervention will give a momentary advantage to the assailant that he can use to either escape or escalate the situation into a 3-way brawl? In the heat of battle, the parties involved will not be presenting their case for your consideration. So let's hear your views.

Verbal instructions, if they fail go to physical intimidation tactics (look scary and give more forceful orders), then physically intervene, gaining and keeping control of the two subjects.