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Sentinel Superhero


 | Subject: Re: RLSH training theories Thu Jan 07, 2010 6:21 pm | |
| I am well aware that you were using Master Legends words, I simply asked politely, that is if you can help it, keeping me out of the petty bickering, as I have no opinion on ML's divinity either way.
Weak grammatical skills? If grammar is all you have to load your pointed finger with, that's pretty weak TT. Only a narcissist would hoard that claim. I could start utilizing more complex sentence structures, grammar, spelling, vernacular etc if you would rather. I only used simple term's to come down to your level. Perhaps that is a presumption on my part?
I don't faciliate or support "vigilantism" as you stated. I have my own opinion on the application of "laws" and "justice" SWAT? you flatter me. My "sunglasses" are sealed goggles to protect my eyes.
For the record, I don't really care if you "approve" of what I do. As stated before, I have better things to do, than pander for your "approval" of my activities. As far as I am concerned, you do nothing to suppport helping RLSH other than yourself, and your own frail ego. You relish creating havoc, discord, and de-cohesing anything anyone in here attempts to do, methodology aside to help their fellow man. So until you shut up, and / or put up, what you say to me, carries nothing of value. I enjoy our converstaions very much, but if you prefer to be an arrogant dick, and nit pick behind a computer screen, well what you say to me will be pretty worthless i'm afraid. Prove me wrong. |
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 | Subject: Re: RLSH training theories Thu Jan 07, 2010 6:48 pm | |
| Tiny Terror,
No offense intended towards you, but Sentinel made a lot of good points there. You gotta admit, you do like to butt in other's lives as far as telling them what they should do or not do. I understand that might be part of your paternal instincts or villainous code of (dis-?)honor, since you're a dad and a self-proclaimed villain and all that, but don't look at us as someone who is going to change our agenda based on what other people say on the internet.
People like us come on here to this forum to socialize and/or network with like-minded individuals. Not to gain acceptance, approval, or have people talking us in to living a lifestyle they deem better. |
|  | | TinyTerror Villain General


 | Subject: Re: RLSH training theories Thu Jan 07, 2010 8:23 pm | |
| | Sentinel wrote: | I am well aware that you were using Master Legends words, I simply asked politely, that is if you can help it, keeping me out of the petty bickering, as I have no opinion on ML's divinity either way.
Weak grammatical skills? If grammar is all you have to load your pointed finger with, that's pretty weak TT. Only a narcissist would hoard that claim. I could start utilizing more complex sentence structures, grammar, spelling, vernacular etc if you would rather. I only used simple term's to come down to your level. Perhaps that is a presumption on my part?
I don't faciliate or support "vigilantism" as you stated. I have my own opinion on the application of "laws" and "justice" SWAT? you flatter me. My "sunglasses" are sealed goggles to protect my eyes.
For the record, I don't really care if you "approve" of what I do. As stated before, I have better things to do, than pander for your "approval" of my activities. As far as I am concerned, you do nothing to suppport helping RLSH other than yourself, and your own frail ego. You relish creating havoc, discord, and de-cohesing anything anyone in here attempts to do, methodology aside to help their fellow man. So until you shut up, and / or put up, what you say to me, carries nothing of value. I enjoy our converstaions very much, but if you prefer to be an arrogant dick, and nit pick behind a computer screen, well what you say to me will be pretty worthless i'm afraid. Prove me wrong. |
I have rarely used you as an example of an off-kilter RLSH, for the record. Occasionally I will bring up your name, but as no one has ever heard of you...Well, it doesn't help to prove a point. If anything, I've only spread your name further; you should be pleased.
That was a potshot, no need to take it so seriously. I already admitted to being something of a narcissist; being a nerd all through high school and having to convince myself that I'm great has probably contributed; again, joking, but I do exhibit the tendencies of a narcissist. However, we all have some sort of flaw attributed to ourselves. Perhaps yours is a weak grasp of the written word! Another potshot, put the gun down.
Then what do you facilitate? You've mentioned in the past that you don't want a significant other in your life to get in the way of your "sworn duty"...That strikes me as you wanting to participate in dangerous things. Eh, laws are only written versions of our social norms and justice is a matter of perspective. You don't deal with jokes very well do you? You look like SWAT and they look like dark sunglasses; regardless, enjoy them. What are they protecting your eyes from, for the record? Just curious.
H'okay. That's all well and good; everyone is entitled to their opinion. I never asked directly for people to like me, but showing me respect has caused fairer responses because it shows that you're open to criticism, regardless of where that criticism comes from. I create no more discord and havoc than other RLSH do, to be perfectly honest. I've always championed the cause of community outreach and even in my jabs at Master Legend, I have admitted that he's done more for his community than most; just because I don't support the idea of people running around in capes to actively stop crime does not mean that I don't approve of the RLSH as a whole.
Arrogant? Maybe a tad. A dick? Certainly not. I'll give you pesky and nosy, for certain, but that's just because I actually care about the movement enough to question its grasp on reality. In before Tothian says this isn't a movement; I think we're past arguing semantics at this point. You have to remember that I'm a normal guy; I'd like to hope that everyone here realizes that I'm flesh and blood like the rest of you...What this entails is that as part of your public, we should have the ability to come in and talk about the RLSH; we should be able to ask questions and participate in discourse.
And you should be able to respond. This is, by far, the most public of the RLSH networking sites and I appreciate that. There's no reason that you all should be keeping secrets from us, save for your identities...That's a personal decision. It's just a matter of time, should this movement grow in size enough, before you have people coming up to you in the streets and doing the same thing I'm doing, but in a less digital means. All it takes is word being spread, which I have been diligent enough to do while I was on hiatus.
Even when I was trying to keep away from the lot of you, I still spread the message. Do I expect anything in return? No. Do I expect you to understand that I do like the movement and I do care about your safety? Of course.
Otherwise I'd be using reverse psychology and praising all of you and offering advice on crime-fighting and haranguing the people that have the guns.
Tothian,
Why would I be offended about him having good points? They ARE good points and I'd prefer that to him either hijacking the topic or avoiding me. I don't butt into your lives, I butt into your "sworn duties" in an attempt that logic will be enough to help you either:
A. Gain a better understanding of who you are.
B. Make you see things from an alternative perspective.
Those things are the impetus for positive change. I'm not trying to be a father to you guys; that would be pretty pretentious. I'll argue with you, I'll even espouse vitriol every now and again, but I have never once said that is a requirement to read or listen or change based on something that I have had to say; you all do it anyways, either because you're interested, you're looking to one-up me because it will make you feel good, or because, like me, you enjoy a good argument. Will I try to influence? That's the goal of a debate, methinks, so yes, I will try to exert my influence.
Still, I have never required any of you to do anything. You respond, positively or negatively, of your own volition. Whether you apply the perspective or consider the things I say, that's entirely up to you as well.
The internet this, the internet that. Stupid, pointless things happen on the internet, but there are greater opportunities than any other avenue of discussion here than elsewhere. You can't automatically throw something out as invalid simply because it happens on the internet because words that are said here and discussions that are had here can be just as poignant as those held in other venues. Is it more difficult to create an emotional attachment? Certainly. However, that doesn't mean that it doesn't count.
Saying that discussion had over the internet is all pointless is sort of like what I did with that comment on Sentinel's grammatical skill; it's a stupid argument and best left to ribbing instead of discourse. I'm sorry if my statement hurt your feelings, Sentinel; I know you're a smart guy regardless of your typing skills and I would never wield that as a REAL argument against someone in a debate...That's called a 'diversion' and it's best left to politicians and lawyers rather than social reformists and their critics, yeah? |
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 | Subject: Re: RLSH training theories Thu Jan 07, 2010 8:28 pm | |
| Best training for a RLSH?
I've always been a heavy weightlifter, but recently discovered Kettlebells.
They are a 200 year old Russian way to work out & the famous american Strongman Eugene Sandow used them as well in the early 1900's.
I love them & believe if a "batman" actually existed, this is how he would actually train, The give strength, endurence & cardio all at once and are a real shock to your training. |
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 | Subject: Re: RLSH training theories Thu Jan 07, 2010 8:45 pm | |
| Tiny Terror,
My main problem with people calling this a 'Movement' is that it kind of feels like people are trying to drag others' into their own way of thinking. And as if one person's actions represent everyone. That part actually annoys me and I take offense to it because I don't like it when others think their actions represent me, nor do I like it when my actions represent others - good or bad. It just seems more fair that way. And as long as people aren't asking everyone to live up to one specific ideal expectation they hold, then call it whatever you want.
Again, you'd probably be better off if you stopped presenting yourself as an "RLSV" and instead just be yourself. You know how I'm always saying it's your actions that define you, combined with how others perceive you - but also take in to consideration the fact that for those who don't know you as well as some of us do who've known you for a while already - you calling yourself a 'Villain' or 'RLSV' is like sending out this message that you're against them almost like a kind of prejudice, because of a title, which is really irrelevant. But, it's just the way it originally comes off to some people, even though that's not your intention, because like you said, you're not actually against us in a way villains are against the heroes in comic books, and such.
I didn't mean to imply that people are less-important because you only know them on the internet, but I mean that they're not as directly/physically involved in your life as people you know in person. And, many times it is harder to understand people's intentions behind what they say on the internet. Then again, people are able to put more thought behind what they say on the internet and edit out things they could re-phrase better, before they even send or post things. This probably being a case where you and I probably agree about this but we're just talking semantics again, which is pointless but fun, kinda like flirting with old ladies. |
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 | Subject: Re: RLSH training theories Thu Jan 07, 2010 8:47 pm | |
| Superhero,
I remember you were telling me about that the other day, I saw a video of it on YouTube, it looked like a good work-out. I gotta try that some time. |
|  | | Sentinel Superhero


 | Subject: Re: RLSH training theories Thu Jan 07, 2010 8:48 pm | |
| 1. My choice to be single is none of your business. One does not have to be "attached" to be happy. That sounds like a shaming tactic that a feminist would spew.
2. I have never used the term "sworn duty" I DO have a life outside the uniform.
3. We don't need reverse or forward psychology to motivate us.
4. I don't know you, nor you me well enough to take good natured "pot shots, with out one of use taking it out of context. We have not purchased one another a beer yet.
5. My "grammatical" skills are adequate to communicate what I need to with out excessive use of words your average layperson would not be able to use in a sentence. That usage of said vernacular only fuels the fire to inflate the source ego fully knowing said vernacular is used sparingly, or not fully understood. After all, language IS meant for two people to communicate and understand one another. Not leave the one on the receiving end wondering WTF you just said.
6. Yes I am ingelligent. You want to know something about me?, I hold two bachelors, one in the psychology field, and one in the engineering field.
7. We see plenty from "alternate perspectives" we're out there in the field, you..are not.
8. The "movement" as a whole has a firm grasp on reality, albiet what it is. We cannot be held accountable for lone ideals of opinions of said members/wannabe's of said movement.
9. I am fully prepared to handle individuals on the street whom may want to "banter" on the resoundingly "intellectual" with me. When that happens, i'll let you know. Usually, I encounter those up to no good, or those that need help. Their first and formost desire would not be to engage me in intellectual banter as to why i'm prowling in the dark in a uniform.
10. I have absolutely no desire to "one-up you" on any level. That statement alone defines your self admitted narcissism. I am not in a race with you. 11. If you want to win friends, and influence people. Don't tell them what to do, advise when it's asked for, don't be a dick, and most certainly do not admit you're still struggling with post teen trauma about being a "nerd" with the time with no self esteem so you utilize your "grammatical" skills to best those you know full well, or presume to know full well, may fall short.....You're a legend in your own mind.
Again, I rather enjoy bantering with you TT. But do not patronize me by attempting to create friction just to stroke your ego. That my friend, is called mutual respect. I won't for one moment think you a pansy if you're not out in the field, in -3 degree weather, helping those, taking chances, living your own words etc etc etc.
With that said. Let's hit the reset button...Hi, I'm Sentinel..pleased to meet you.
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 | Subject: Re: RLSH training theories Thu Jan 07, 2010 9:02 pm | |
| Tothian and SH. I train with some Parkour, as I don't have a lot of need for it. Mostly Ninjutsu, Koppojutsu, Bojutsu etc. I utilize alot of grapples, rolls, block punch and kick techniques, pain compliance techniques for close quarter problems. I am really fortunate that I do not have to use much of it at all, but i'm thankful it's at my disposal. Like Tothian and I discussed previously, I don't really "engage" the "enemy" unless there is an immediate need to do so, ie: someone being robbed, assaulted, someone hurt etc. |
|  | | TinyTerror Villain General


 | Subject: Re: RLSH training theories Thu Jan 07, 2010 9:11 pm | |
| | Sentinel wrote: | 1. My choice to be single is none of your business. One does not have to be "attached" to be happy. That sounded like a shaming tactic from a needy feminist.
2. I have never used the term "sworn duty" I DO have a life outside the uniform.
3. We don't need reverse or forward psychology to motivate us.
4. I don't know you, nor you me well enough to take good natured "pot shots, with out one of use taking it out of context. We have not purchased one another a beer yet.
5. My "grammatical" skills are adequate to communicate what I need to with out excessive use of words your average layperson would not be able to use in a sentence. That usage of said vernacular only fuels the fire to inflate the source ego fully knowing said vernacular is used sparingly, or not fully understood. After all, language IS meant for two people to communicate and understand one another. Not leave the one on the receiving end wondering WTF you just said.
6. Yes I am ingelligent. You want to know something about me?, I hold two bachelors, one in the psychology field, and one in the engineering field.
7. We see plenty from "alternate perspectives" we're out there in the field, you..are not.
8. The "movement" as a whole has a firm grasp on reality, albiet what it is. We cannot be held accountable for lone ideals of opinions of said members/wannabe's of said movement.
9. I am fully prepared to handle individuals on the street whom may want to "banter" on the resoundingly "intellectual" with me. When that happens, i'll let you know. Usually, I encounter those up to no good, or those that need help. Their first and formost desire would not be to engage me in intellectual banter as to why i'm prowling in the dark in a uniform.
10. I have absolutely no desire to "one-up you" on any level. That statement alone defines your self admitted narcissism. I am not in a race with you. 11. If you want to win friends, and influene people. Don't tell them what to do, advise when it's asked for, don't be a dick, and most certainly do not admit your still struggling with post teen trauma about being a "nerd" with the time with no self esteem so you utilize your "grammatical" skills to best those you know full well, or presume to know full well, may fall short.....You're a legend in your own mind.
Again, I rather enjoy bantering with you TT. But do not patronize me by attempting to create friction just to stroke your ego. That my friend, is called mutual respect. I won't for one moment think you a pansy if you're not out in the field, in -3 degree weather, helping those, taking chances, living your own words etc etc etc.
With that said. Let's hit the reset button...Hi, I'm Sentinel..pleased to meet you. |
Hoo-boy. I don't think I can find the reset button here, mon amie.
1. I'm not saying that it is. You said it would get in the way and that is your decision; regardless, that doesn't really give anyone much to work with, does it? You don't talk about what you do, so how else is anyone supposed to judge you save for your picture there? From the picture? Well, it reminds me a lot of NightWatch and NightWatch is a vigilante...So...If I'm making baseless assumptions, you have my apologies, but you really don't give anyone much to work with.
2. Congratulations? My bad on the "sworn duty" thing.
3. Some of you could use the kick in the ass.
4. So you don't want to be friends unless we can drink together? That's a shame!
5. Oh, delightful! I don't think that anyone has EVER had to ask me what I mean because I used one too many large words. I enjoy the vernacular myself as it offers flexibility over rigidity.
6. I'm proud of you. I'm actually working on my Bachelor's in Sociology right now.
7. Obviously not; many of you can't accept the semblance of criticism, even from people who ARE in the field. Those people get regarded as fakes if they try to question your perspective.
8. The majority of you have a firm grasp on reality and I don't blame the many for the issues of the few; at least not any more. You can, however, be held accountable for things that MIGHT happen if those people should grow to be too influential. You give people MANY, MANY chances to screw it up for the lot of you; maybe not you in particular, but people are forgiven on a constant basis around here and the naivety or willingness to keep letting people back who you KNOW will hurt you is getting too thick.
9. Whatever you say, big guy. I'll take your word for it. And why do you have to act so scary all of the time, for the record? Are you trying to scare the guy who wants to use fear as his gimmick?
10. I'm not exactly applying it to you in particular; I'm applying it broadly. There are people who DO argue just to one-up me. There are others who do it for the stimulating conversation.
11. Honestly? I didn't come here looking to make friends. Yeah, I was a nerd in high school and I thought you said that we couldn't take potshots unless we were having a beer. I smell a double-standard! Either that or revenge. I've made plenty of friends outside of this forum and a few within the RLSH movement proper; it's great and all, but that's not the intention. The original intention was to make enemies, which developed into an attempt to influence or open your minds. It's not going to work for everyone, but there are a number of people who like what I have to say and who enjoy having me around; you're not one of them and I'm cool with that. You don't have to feel bad for being different, Sentinel. I accept you.
I've made the decision to assist at a community youth center; that's my contribution and my future contribution will be in the field of education...I'm going to be a teacher. That's what I'M giving back to the society that helped to rear me and I'm not trying to create friction to stroke my ego. Do you honestly think that I sit here getting all excited whenever I get a response? Let me let you in on a little secret: I don't sit here constantly refreshing the page. I go off and I amuse myself in other ways...If people are online and I know that the responses will be quick, then I'll keep checking them. Admittedly, I have an OCD quirk where I can't leave the yellow lights that mean a forum has new responses blinking; I always check the topic to make them go dim, even if I do not respond.
Weird, isn't it?
If I wanted to utilize my grammatical skills in avenues where I would not be beaten, I wouldn't communicate with Phantom Zero; he's just as capable of it as I am. Intellectual stimulation and discussion are why I'm here, along with the desire to see what makes you all tick...And, of course, to see the alternatives available to myself as well as you all.
We all influence each other and I wouldn't stick around if that wasn't the case.
Hello, Sentinel, I'm Tiny Terror. Nice sunglasses! Is it really bright where you are? |
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 | Subject: Re: RLSH training theories Thu Jan 07, 2010 9:21 pm | |
| Dude..you are WAY to full of yourself. C'mon, the "Beer" thing, you should have understood, why with your vast intellect and such. I don't need a kick in the ass, and i'm not trying to always be "scary" I"m not "Batman" I'm just a lone individual, fear isn't a gimmick, its a response.
I never assumed you sit there ane refresh the page. Who are you trying to convince? me or you?
This is starting to turn into a "hatfields and McCoy" situation, 100 years pass, and the fued still rages, however both sides have forgotten what they're figthing about.
Does the "no can do on the reset" apply to the fact we can forget past discussions, and carry forward on a new footprint?
You're complainng you have nothing to go on about me from a personal standpoint, so you thusly judge me and catagorize me into the realm of "vigilante" based on a past "character" in here whom looked like me? isn't that a bit....well...beneath you to presume such a thing TT? Let's be realistic. |
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 | Subject: Re: RLSH training theories Thu Jan 07, 2010 9:33 pm | |
| You two should give each other a call, or if you'd rather your numbers remain anonymous from each other, feel more than welcome to use the conference line I have posted in the private section.
Unlike communicating via internet, you'll have the luxury of being able to detect sarcastic humor in each others' words. |
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 | Subject: Re: RLSH training theories Thu Jan 07, 2010 9:44 pm | |
| True Tothain. My fingers were a tad chatty this evening so took advantage of the banter. I have thought of calling TT or having him call me, or we can use the conference as you suggested. Not sure if and when that will happen. |
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 | Subject: Re: RLSH training theories Thu Jan 07, 2010 9:47 pm | |
| You could always PM Tiny Terror and arrange something with him. And remember, you can use the conference line any time you want. |
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 | Subject: Re: RLSH training theories Thu Jan 07, 2010 9:55 pm | |
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 | Subject: Re: RLSH training theories Fri Jan 08, 2010 1:33 am | |
| i have grown quite bored of you tiny terror so why not just leave me alone to my works of good intent.you are dealing with forces you don't innerstand. maybe i should post your recent lies and threats to me? would you like that? it's time to stop now, it has gotten old. |
|  | | TinyTerror Villain General


 | Subject: Re: RLSH training theories Fri Jan 08, 2010 3:34 am | |
| | master legend wrote: | i have grown quite bored of you tiny terror so why not just leave me alone to my works of good intent.you are dealing with forces you don't innerstand. maybe i should post your recent lies and threats to me? would you like that? it's time to stop now, it has gotten old. |
Please, post any threats of violence I have made towards you, Master Legend. Do it. I can promise you right now, on my own life, that I have never once threatened you. Not ONCE.
You're not going to frighten me with whatever you have hidden behind the veil, good sir, as I am certain that if you have anything to post, you can't validate it with a screen-shot or anything that would prove I've said something to that effect in the past; not because you're technologically challenged, but because there has never been a point where I have threatened the life or safety of an RLSH. Nor would I stoop to such measures...After all, weren't you the one who wanted to beat me up?
Sentinel,
I'm arguing broadly as I believe that it's a broad topic. I'm not expecting even HALF of what I say to be applicable to you, so just remember that for future reference. If what I say isn't applicable, then just ignore it and move along with your life; if it's not that important to you, then you shouldn't care. Regardless, fear can be a gimmick. People like Z and Phoenix are trying to make it their gimmick and trying to elicit said response from the people that they're going after.
I know you're not Batman! You're more like...Well, you're more like Robo-Cop, without the mechanical parts. Chill out, bud; no reason to take this personally. I've told you that several times now and you're welcome to harass me for being short. Honestly? I'm just wondering if that's what you see in your head whenever you picture me; a short, chubby guy angrily pressing the f5 key over and over again. I just wanted to clarify as to whether or not your imaginings were false.
They obviously weren't what you were picturing to begin with, so...Cool, I guess.
I don't know if ANYONE has anything to go off as far as you're concerned, mon amie. If you're not a vigilante, then you're not a vigilante...But I honestly don't see you going to read to kids in that get-up; I think even you can agree with me there. We all make flash judgments and I never said I was any different. Intelligence is not equal to infinite knowledge and wisdom about the world around you; if I make an assumption and I'm wrong, then I'm wrong and there's no getting past that. Still, the secretive nature of your works, the fact that you don't want other people involved, and the fact that you've got body armor on top of body armor makes me wonder.
Of course people are going to make assumptions; stereotypes help us deal with life, even if they're often incorrect.
Honestly, mate? Hitting the reset button at this point wouldn't make me relinquish my opinions and I don't think you would relinquish yours either. It's best just to remember the past instead of ignoring it. |
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 | Subject: Re: RLSH training theories Fri Jan 08, 2010 3:34 am | |
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I dig the link, by the way. |
|  | | Sentinel Superhero


 | Subject: Re: RLSH training theories Fri Jan 08, 2010 11:38 am | |
| Thanks TT. It's a really nice, high quality light. I carry one similiar with a red LED as well. That way I do not ruin my nigh vision when on patrols. Nothing worse than night blindness. I am a self admitted gadget geek and I am always seeking out more useful gadgets, for everyday life and the RLSH. |
|  | | master legend Caped Crusader


 | Subject: Re: RLSH training theories Fri Jan 08, 2010 11:50 am | |
| here you go threats and lies at the same time.for one i have never been banned from the hn before just this one time and i made no agreement to stop telling my experiences.then the threat is not physical but of wanting to cause me as much problems as you can for me here on this site.so eat your words boy. http://phobiajournal.blogspot.com/2010/01/resounding-victory.html |
|  | | Sentinel Superhero


 | Subject: Re: RLSH training theories Fri Jan 08, 2010 11:59 am | |
| Shaking head....to much drama. Everything RLSH stands for is being eclipsed by this petty bickering. |
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